1911 vs the Glock

Colt1991A1Glock 17-1

It seems that the debate/argument/flame war re the 1911 vs the Glock shows up almost every day…with the Glock fans insisting that their toy is the far superior design.

But, if they knew just how much of it is 1911…and how many of its features were borrowed/stolen from not only John Browning…but many of his contemporaries, they’d be a little shocked.

Let’s count the ways.

The locked breech, short recoil operation with the tilting barrel and front slide dismount is Browning’s. The fact that it HAS a slide is Browning’s idea. He pioneered the sliding breechblock in 1898, and it appeared on his 1900 Model.

Glock 17-7

Action spring under the barrel? Yep. Browning again.

The double camming surfaces on the lower barrel lug and the frame-mounted cross member used to raise and lower the barrel…ditto. He used that on his Grande Rendement, and it reappeared when Dueudonne Saive used it on the High Power. Ditto for the barrel’s integral feed ramp.

Glock 17-26

The double column/single feed position magazine? Browning again…on the Grande Rendement.

The striker can be attributed to Hugo Borchardt and Georg Luger. Pre-staging it is traced to the Roth-Steyr.

Glock 17-5

Button actuated magazine catch/release? Borchardt and Luger.

Synthetic frame? Heckler and Koch had that covered over 30 years ago.

It seems that the only real innovation is that all these borrowed ideas are combined into one pistol. Well…that and the safety mounted on the trigger…and that led to the term “Glock Leg” being coined.

So, when the Glockers come atcha with this superior, innovative design…educate’em…and be prepared for heads to explode.

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3 Responses to 1911 vs the Glock

  1. Daniel E. Watters January 30, 2016 at 1:08 am #

    FWIW: A hinged trigger safety was offered by Iver Johnson on one of its “hammerless” revolvers back in the 1890s, nearly 90 years before the introduction of the Glock 17.

  2. Richardb January 30, 2016 at 8:21 am #

    If the other guys had put their guns together with only 30 or so parts would Herr Glock be in the gun business today?

  3. Ron January 31, 2016 at 8:50 am #

    Had a Remington R1 which malfunctioned often. Traded it in on a Glock 21 Gen 4. The Glock works. Every time.

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